ssj4 goku beby arc vs super vegito buu arc

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ssj4 goku beby arc vs super vegito buu arc
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+ Pointer	Oct 26 2017, 04:04 PM Post #1
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Its been a while so



+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 26 2017, 04:37 PM Post #2
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I will never understand this debate Even if I use a 2x ssj multiplier for GT goku and GT gohan and I make ssj vegito 20x stronger than buuhan then I get these numbers Super buu 5 Mystic gohan 5 Buuhan 10 GT gohan 8 Ssj 16 Goku 20 Ssj 40 Ssj3 320 Ssj vegito 200 And idk why vegito has to be the one goku was referring to when he said SBV1 was the strongest. Based on the numbers vegito has no chance. Ssj3 goku should be stronger than super vegito and ssj3 goku was weaker than baby vegeta. Only chance vegito has is if he goes ssj3 Even ignoring all that, he can't beat ssj4 goku. Ssj4 goku>>SBV2>SBV1>ssj vegito, based purely on statements. He'd mop the floor with him Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Oct 26 2017, 04:48 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Oct 26 2017, 08:49 PM Post #3
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ssj3vegito96 Oct 26 2017, 04:37 PM I will never understand this debate Even if I use a 2x ssj multiplier for GT goku and GT gohan and I make ssj vegito 20x stronger than buuhan then I get these numbers Super buu 5 Mystic gohan 5 Buuhan 10 GT gohan 8 Ssj 16 Goku 20 Ssj 40 Ssj3 320 Ssj vegito 200 And idk why vegito has to be the one goku was referring to when he said SBV1 was the strongest. Based on the numbers vegito has no chance. Ssj3 goku should be stronger than super vegito and ssj3 goku was weaker than baby vegeta. Only chance vegito has is if he goes ssj3 Even ignoring all that, he can't beat ssj4 goku. Ssj4 goku>>SBV2>SBV1>ssj vegito, based purely on statements. He'd mop the floor with him Basically have to make Base Vegetto as strong as Boohan and give him the full 50x multiplier to fit the statement.
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jason vorhees	Oct 27 2017, 04:38 AM Post #4
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	vegito would win .too much power from potara fusion



+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 27 2017, 11:27 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Pyrus Oct 26 2017, 08:49 PM Ssj3vegito96 Oct 26 2017, 04:37 PM I will never understand this debate Even if I use a 2x ssj multiplier for GT goku and GT gohan and I make ssj vegito 20x stronger than buuhan then I get these numbers Super buu 5 Mystic gohan 5 Buuhan 10 GT gohan 8 Ssj 16 Goku 20 Ssj 40 Ssj3 320 Ssj vegito 200 And idk why vegito has to be the one goku was referring to when he said SBV1 was the strongest. Based on the numbers vegito has no chance. Ssj3 goku should be stronger than super vegito and ssj3 goku was weaker than baby vegeta. Only chance vegito has is if he goes ssj3 Even ignoring all that, he can't beat ssj4 goku. Ssj4 goku>>SBV2>SBV1>ssj vegito, based purely on statements. He'd mop the floor with him Basically have to make Base Vegetto as strong as Boohan and give him the full 50x multiplier to fit the statement. And that's not possible because despite what it looked like buuhan was stronger than base vegito. Unless you want to say things were different in the GT continuity's buu saga. This is a side story and likely takes place in another dimension so I think that's fair Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Oct 27 2017, 11:29 PM.
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Notaka	Oct 27 2017, 11:31 PM Post #6
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Didn't elder kai state that Goku was the largest KI he felt? Considering he sensed Vegito, it's fair to say that he included Vegito. But then I remember a guide book saying that Vegito rivaled or perhaps surpassed SSJ4 Goku in power so I don't really know. I think I'm gonna give it to Vegito, especially since he can transform into SSJ2/3.
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+ Pyrus	Oct 27 2017, 11:54 PM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ssj3vegito96 Oct 27 2017, 11:27 PM Pyrus Oct 26 2017, 08:49 PM Ssj3vegito96 Oct 26 2017, 04:37 PM I will never understand this debate Even if I use a 2x ssj multiplier for GT goku and GT gohan and I make ssj vegito 20x stronger than buuhan then I get these numbers Super buu 5 Mystic gohan 5 Buuhan 10 GT gohan 8 Ssj 16 Goku 20 Ssj 40 Ssj3 320 Ssj vegito 200 And idk why vegito has to be the one goku was referring to when he said SBV1 was the strongest. Based on the numbers vegito has no chance. Ssj3 goku should be stronger than super vegito and ssj3 goku was weaker than baby vegeta. Only chance vegito has is if he goes ssj3 Even ignoring all that, he can't beat ssj4 goku. Ssj4 goku>>SBV2>SBV1>ssj vegito, based purely on statements. He'd mop the floor with him Basically have to make Base Vegetto as strong as Boohan and give him the full 50x multiplier to fit the statement. And that's not possible because despite what it looked like buuhan was stronger than base vegito. Unless you want to say things were different in the GT continuity's buu saga. This is a side story and likely takes place in another dimension so I think that's fair Super Boo - 0.4 SSJ3 Gotenks - 0.45 Base Vegetto - 0.5 Ultimate Gohan - 0.6 Bootenks - 0.85 Boohan - 1 Rild - 1.2 Base Goku - 1.3 SSJ Goku - 3.25 SSJ2 Goku - 4.875 SSJ3 Goku - 9.75 Vegeta-Baby - 12 SSJ Vegetto - 25 Notaka Oct 27 2017, 11:31 PM Didn't elder kai state that Goku was the largest KI he felt? Dub line. Quote: Considering he sensed Vegito, it's fair to say that he included Vegito. But then I remember a guide book saying that Vegito rivaled or perhaps surpassed SSJ4 Goku in power so I don't really know. I think I'm gonna give it to Vegito, especially since he can transform into SSJ2/3. That book has nothing to do with GT itself despite it coming out during the GT era. What the show says overrides what a secondary source might vaguely suggest.
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Slifer	Oct 27 2017, 11:55 PM Post #8
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Vegetto would need SSJ3 to see even the slightest ray of hope, and even then I wouldn't like his chances. Goku stomps Super Vegetto as badly as Vegetto stomped Boo.



OmegaSaiyan2	Oct 27 2017, 11:56 PM Post #9
¿? Posts: 3,381 Group: Member Member #10,465 Joined: November 9, 2013 Gender Male Country Chile Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z and Sailor Moon. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z.	SBV1 has already surpassed SSJ Vegetto, so Goku blinks Vegetto away.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 28 2017, 12:05 AM Post #10
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	One small problem with your numbers don't seem to consider that GT gohan is stronger than he was in the buu saga and that base goku was strong enough to take on ssj gohan and ssj goten. So if ultimate gohan in the buu saga was a .6 then GT gohan would be idk like a .8 at least and then if we assume his ssj multiplier is ~2x(iirc it's like 2.5x but I'm low balling) like goku's is now, then ssj gohan is 1.6 and so base goku should be like 2.2. So ssj goku is 4.4, ssj2 is 8.8, ssj3, if we use a 4x ssj3 multiplier, is 35.2. Idk what you want to use a ssj3 multiplier. Anything ~3x and up makes him stronger than ssj vegito though
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StrenuousSpider	Oct 28 2017, 12:38 AM Post #11
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	I have base gt bebi arc goku equal with base vegito. Going off the whole rildo being stronger then buu and we have to assume its buuhan. And going off gohan getting stronger with ssj on top ultimate. But we can assume with ssj he is around the buuhan level maybe stronger. And rildo is stronger then gohan. I put rildo 2x buuhan and goku 50% stronger then rildo. Buuhan 1 Gt ssj gohan 1- 1.5 Rildo 2 Goku 3 Z vegito 3 There is no reason to have base vegito have a huge gap on buuhan. I also dont think goku got a huge boost from the weird s*** in the beginning of gt to bebi saga i think the major boost happens after ssj4 is obtained. It fits the whole vegito was not surpassed untill ssj4 because goku was equal and he never actually surpassed vegito yet.



Sjk8	Oct 28 2017, 02:02 PM Post #12
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	Ssj4 Goku.
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+ Pointer	Oct 28 2017, 03:57 PM Post #13
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Wait now you say base goku against rildo was equal to vegito no way The gap between buuhan and ssj3 goku was insane. Bigger than the gap between full powered frieza and piccolo post nail



Blue Evolution Vegeta	Oct 28 2017, 04:03 PM Post #14
Posts: 378 Group: Member Member #9,064 Joined: February 18, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime DB, DBZ, DBGT, DBS, Toriko, Digimon, Pokemon and Stitch! Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super and Toriko	Beginning of GT Base Goku could possibly be on Super Vegito's level, but at most GT Goku should only need SSJ to utterly destroy DBZ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku isn't needed, so GT Goku one shots effortlessly, in almost any form



StrenuousSpider	Oct 28 2017, 04:45 PM Post #15
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Kokilalf Oct 28 2017, 03:57 PM Wait now you say base goku against rildo was equal to vegito no way The gap between buuhan and ssj3 goku was insane. Bigger than the gap between full powered frieza and piccolo post nail At end of z he was gotenks level. Beginning of gt is some odd years later uub is older so is pan by a decent amount. Goku by time he gets to bebi could easily surpass vegito but going with the whole vegito was not surpassed untill bebi and ssj4 i see no problem with him being equal to Z vegito in bebi arc or even at rildo. Because it fits he had not surpassed vegito but equaled him I also still use the 50x multiplier for GT because of rildos statement about him getting dozens of times stronger so i dont see the 2x multiplier working when the material kinda said other wise. Edited by StrenuousSpider, Oct 28 2017, 04:47 PM.



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